Appearance of surfacing buried scar tissue/damage

Hello Dr. Pickart,

 

As you requested, I've come to the Skin Biology Science website with my questions/concerns...

 

I have read almost everything there is to read about buried scar tissue. The diagram shown in Dr. Pickart's books, and online, shows that buried scar tissue surfacing appears to look like a piece of bubble gum pulling away from the bottom of a shoe... which is a good analogy. However, I would like to know if there are any other examples of what the skin may look like and/or the process of surfacing buried damage.

 

Within the last three years, I've gone through a few series of derma rolling or stamping followed by copper peptides and/or strong acids such as 20% salicylic acid or glycolic acid peels.

 

In the following days/weeks (usually the two week mark) after derma rolling or stamping, bumps appear within the scar(s) that I derma stamped or rolled, that appear similar to cystic acne or pimples, but they are not filled with anything other than maybe clear fluid. The bumps are pink, and often tingle and/or itch, almost like early signs of a cold sore. What does this mean?

 

Sometimes, the bumps will crust over and the crusted skin will peel off in a day or so.  The crusted skin does not appear dark like a scab. It just looks like really dry crusted skin that peels off and feels like a callous on the bump before its removed.

 

A few days later, another layer of crusted skin grows over the bump(s) and peels off again, but the bump(s) is/are still visible, just a little flatter. I find this happens when I do not use copper peptides for a few days and only stick to 10% hydroxy acid and also a 2-5% plain salicylic acid after cleansing at night. 

 

These bumps are quite a nuisance and I'm wondering if they are surfacing scar tissue or new skin growing in place of the scar tissue. I'm SO confused.

 

Any feedback would be much appreciated!

 

Thanks

Original Post

Hi Pinkdervish, I always get reactive bumps under my skin after I have derma rolled my neck area, and  there's heaps of them every where that I have rolled. I know its an immune reaction to the injuring from the roller; which is a normal body function, they will last about 2 days and nearly all gone by the 3rd day. They have never turned into cysts that remain so I cant advise there, however I did have a cyst once that reacted similar to yours with continue peeling  and then eventually went away. After injuring the skin I only use the copper peptides without the salicylic acid in; to help with the wound healing and never any form of chemical exfoliant for at least a week; to me, its too much irritation and stress for the skin, that has already been injured from the rolling. After injury I feel you just need to let your skin  deal with the inflammation and heal, less is more. I don't know if this helps, just my natural inclinations in regards to your issue. 

Hi Polly!
 
Thanks so much for your reply. Without photographic and written documentation of what I use and what my skin appears like after derma needling, I often lose sight of my progress.
 
Its helpful to know that I'm not the only one that experiences the bumps after derma rolling. I never knew it was an immune reaction. At one point, I actually thought that they may be cold sores, considering how close the scarred tissue I roll the most (deepest scar I have) is near my nasalobial fold (smile line) and I've had cold sores before.
 
Makes sense to only use CPs after derma needling. I've backed off from the stronger acids, and only have 2% in my cleanser that I use once a day or maybe every other day, just to keep the acne at bay.
 
Thanks again for your reply. Your information has been helpful.
 
Originally Posted by polly:

Hi Pinkdervish, I always get reactive bumps under my skin after I have derma rolled my neck area, and  there's heaps of them every where that I have rolled. I know its an immune reaction to the injuring from the roller; which is a normal body function, they will last about 2 days and nearly all gone by the 3rd day. They have never turned into cysts that remain so I cant advise there, however I did have a cyst once that reacted similar to yours with continue peeling  and then eventually went away. After injuring the skin I only use the copper peptides without the salicylic acid in; to help with the wound healing and never any form of chemical exfoliant for at least a week; to me, its too much irritation and stress for the skin, that has already been injured from the rolling. After injury I feel you just need to let your skin  deal with the inflammation and heal, less is more. I don't know if this helps, just my natural inclinations in regards to your issue. 

 

Hi, Believe,
 
If you prefer, you may email me at savoringsweetness@gmail.com.
 
Until then, what I CAN say here, is that it is so very important to pay close attention to everything in your regimen, your stress levels, whether or not you are eating healthy and drinking quality water, taking recommended supplements that Dr. Pickart has mentioned...
 
Also, I used to be quite impatient, derma rolling every couple of weeks, but lately I will wait six weeks or more... this is where you will REALLY begin to notice changes. These changes will continue to occur for weeks, months or years later down the road. Skin remodeling doesn't happen overnight.
 
Personally, documenting what I use, how I eat, how I'm feeling (in addition to photographs) have helped me tremendously. I also try to remember that my scars and acne may seem like a battlefield to me, but others are not concentrating on my flaws like I obsess over them in the mirror daily.
 
Don't let your imperfections ruin your life. You will miss out on the beauty that will help you heal.
 
Remember that everyone has imperfections and your eyes will begin to see things differently.
 
I look forward to hearing from you!
 

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